Apr 202012
 
Noi Tieng Viet

Okay, you read about a great new Saigon street food vendor or Saigon eating adventure (presumably here at Eating Saigon!).  You decided to take on that adventure by jumping onto one of Saigon’s possibly air-conditioned buses, figuring out how to find your way and pay your fare, and absorbing Saigon’s wonderful sites and smells along the way.

Take a Bus to Your Next Saigon Eating Adventure 

Or, better yet, you hung onto the back of a xe ôm, enjoying a thrilling motorbike ride through the crowded streets of Saigon (together with 10,000 of your new scooter friends) and promptly arriving in a strange neighborhood at the seemingly correct street address for this new eating experience. (Actually, you couldn’t pronounce the name of the street, but the letters and tonal accents seemed to match the address you noted on your cell phone.)

The street numbers did seem a bit confusing. “Oh  look, the odd #’s are on one side of the street, and the even numbers on the other – but are completely unrelated to each other!”  You eventually found the correct location and saw the restaurant name (or maybe just an old woman huddled over a boiling pot of broth at that location).

All businesses will post their address and telephone # on their store fronts

You found it!  You were quite proud of yourself – as you should have been. A big congrats from us here at Eating Saigon!

You approached the little red plastic chairs on the sidewalk or the short metal stools around the aluminum tables inside the restaurant and then …

“Oh my god! No one speaks English.”

Don’t worry!  It’s no big deal.  This, in fact, is the really fun part. It’s what makes the whole adventure worthwhile, makes for good travel memories, and most likely will be an excellent meal, as well.

Here’s a quick and simple Field Guide on what to do and What to Say when you find yourself out on the streets of Saigon in the midst of a wonderful eating adventure.

Point and Eat

Actually, all you really have to do is point and eat. That’s the most common, and, typically, the most successful way to proceed.

Point and Eat !

Usually you can scan the various food items displayed on the glass serving shelves or bubbling away in those deep pots.  Then, look up, make eye contact with the cook, smile, point, and nod “yes”.  There – you’ve ordered! Nothing to it!  Enjoy that nameless dish 🙂

Another available option is to quickly glance at the other customers’ tables and note that young woman sitting in the corner, eating that unidentifiable something that looks pretty yummy.  Again point, smile and nod – then enjoy.

Brave Travelers Take the Next Step  – Try your Vietnamese!

To really make the most of your Saigon eating adventure (if you dare), I recommend you try your rudimentary Vietnamese (tiếng Việt) and see what ends up on your plate!

Here are the few basic Viet phrases that you’ll need to make friends and influence people (or at least influence what ends in your lunch bowl).  At the same time, you will leave with both a full tummy and having impressed (or at least entertained) your hosts.

GREETINGS

To begin, a simple “hello” will do.

“Hello”:             chào (“chow” – dropping tone).  Easy, huh?

If you want to really get sophisticated (remember about “first impressions”), you can fine-tune your Vietnamese greeting to the specific person that you’re addressing:

“Hello”  to any younger person:       chào em (“em” – flat, no tone)

“Hello”  to older woman:                   chào chị  (“chee” – dropping, then abrupt stop)

“Hello”  to older man:                        chào anh (“ang” – flat, no tone)

“Hello”  to much older woman:        chào bà  (“ba” – dropping tone)

“Hello”  to much older man:             chào ông  (“omb” – flat, no tone)

“Hello”  to a child:                               chào con  (“con” – flat, no tone)

Or, if you can’t quite figure out folks’ relative ages, you can just say “good morning”, etc.

“Good morning”:     chào buổi sáng   (“buoy” – questioning tone; “sang” – rising tone)

“Good mid-day”:      chào buổi trưa   (“buoy ” – questioning tone; “true-a” – flat, no tone)

“Good afternoon“:    chào buổi chiều  (“buoy ” – questioning tone; “chee-u” dropping tone)

“Good evening“:         chào buổi tối   (“buoy ” – questioning tone; “toy” – rising tone)

PLACE YOUR ORDER

OK, the pleasantries are completed.  By now, the locals may be flocking around you saying, “Wow he/she speaks Vietnamese (nói tiếng Việt)!” So, go for it … it should be a breeze from here on.

If you’re using the Point and Eat approach mentioned above, but want to add a little dazzle to your presence, try adding as you point to the food item you want,

“One of these“:  một caí này (“mote” -dropping, then abrupt stop; “kye” -rising; “nay” -dropping)

or, of course,

“Two of these”:        hai caí này (“hi”- flat, no tone;  “kye” – rising; “nay” – dropping)

Now, if you’re not in the Point and Eat mode, but actually want to speak the food item of your choice, things get a bit more intense.

Begin by beckoning the wait-person (typically from across the room, in a loud voice),

“Waiter!”  to any younger waiter:       EM ƠI ! (“em” – flat, no tone; ” oi” – flat, no tone)

Em Ơi !

[see how to call waiters of different ages/sexes at HELLO, above)

After the waiter has arrived at your table (perhaps having approached you with some caution), you should smile (this always helps) and say,

“Please bring me”:             xin cho tôi (“sin chaw toy” – all flat, no tone)

Now, name your food item.  Presumably you’ve jotted down on scrap of paper or on your  iPhone notes my recommended food choices for this eatery from Eating Saigon ! If not, well …  “What have we learned?” 🙂

But, let me provide you a short list of helpful words to help get you out of this fix – and likely end up with some wonderful food.

“Rice”:   cơm  (“cum” – flat, no tone)

“Noodles”: bún (“boon” – rising tone); or phở (“fuh” – questioning tone); or hủ tiếu (“who” – questioning tone; “tee-u” – rising tone)

“Chicken”: thịt gà (“tit” – dropping, then abrupt stop; “ga” – dropping tone)

“Beef”:    thịt bò (“tit” – dropping, then abrupt stop; “baw” – dropping tone)

“Pork”:    thịt heo (“tit” – dropping, then abrupt stop; “hey-o” – flat, no tone)

“Fish”:     thịt cá (“tit” – dropping, then abrupt stop; “cah” – rising tone)

“Dogmeat” (sorry – had to do it):  thịt chó (“tit” – dropping, then abrupt stop; “chaw” – rising tone)

“Crab”:    cua (“cue – a” – flat, no tone)

“Snails”: ốc (“ope” – rising tone)

“Vegetables”:   rau (“row”, like pow – flat, no tone)

“Tomato”:    cà chua (“ka” – dropping tone; “chew-a” – flat, no tone)

“Coconut”: qủa dừa (“kwa” – questioning tone; “you-a” –  dropping tone)

“Soup”: canh (“con” –  flat, no tone)

“Ice Tea”: trà đá (“ccha” – dropping tone; “dah” – rising tone)

“Coffee” cà phê (“ka” – dropping tone; “fay” –  flat, no tone)

“Milk”:  sữa (“sue-a” – wiggling tone)

“Fresh Juice”: nước ép (“new-ook” – rising tone; “ep” – rising tone)

“Fruit shake”: sinh tố (“sin” – flat, no tone; “toe” –  rising tone)

Try various combinations of these food words above, strung together with (and). You can follow each of these food words, with adjectives, such as,

“Stir-Fried”: xào (“sow” like pow –  dropping tone)

“Deep-Fried”: chiên dòn (“chee-in” –  flat, no tone; “yon” –  dropping tone)

“Steamed”: hấp (“hup” – rising tone)

“BBQ’d”: nướng (“new-ung” – rising tone)

“Large”: to (“taw” – flat, no tone)

“Small”: nhỏ (“n-yaw” – questioning tone)

“Hot”: nóng (“nome” –  rising tone)

“Cold”: lạnh (“lon” – dropping, then abrupt stop)

“Iced”: đá (“dah” – rising tone)

AFTER YOU’VE FINISHED YOUR MEAL

In Vietnam, if you don’t specifically ask for your check, you’ll likely sit there waiting until closing time.  Here are some useful phrases you can try after you’re done eating:

“Toothpick please”:         Có tăm không? (“caw” –  rising tone; “tom comb”” –  both flat, no tone)

“Check please”:               Tính tiền (“tin” – rising tone;  “tee-in” – dropping tone)

“Very delicious”:               Rất ngon (“r-rut” – rising tone; “ng-on” – flat, no tone)

“The food was terrible”:            (silence please)

“Where is …….?

…..the bathroom?”:          Vệ sinh ở đâu? (“vair” –  dropping, then abrupt stop; “shin” – flat, no tone;  “a-a” –  questioning tone;  “dough” -flat, no tone)

…..the bus stop?”:           Bến xe buýt ở đâu? (“ben” –  rising tone; “say-a” –  flat, no tone; “bit” – rising tone;  “a-a” –  questioning tone;  “dough” -flat, no tone)

…..a taxi?” :                       Xe tắc xi ở đâu? (“say-a” –  flat, no tone; ” tak” – rising tone; “see” –  flat, no tone;  “a-a” –  questioning tone;  “dough” -flat, no tone)

…..motorbike driver?”:       Xe ôm ở đâu? (“say-a ohm”  –  both flat, no tone;  “a-a” –  questioning tone;  “dough” -flat, no tone)

“Thank you very much”:          Cám ơn nhiều (“calm” –  rising tone; “un” –  flat, no tone; “n-you” – dropping tone)

“See you again”:                      Hẹn gặp lại (“hen gap lie” – each with dropping, then abrupt stop )

THINGS THAT MIGHT COME IN HANDY BEFORE, DURING, AFTER YOUR MEAL (in order of their usefulness in Saigon)

“I don’t understand”:  tôi không hiểu (“toy comb”-  both flat, no tone; “he-uu” – questioning tone)

“I’m already married”: tôi cưới rồi (“toy” flat, no tone; “kuu-ee” –  rising tone; “roy” –  dropping tone)

“I love you”:  anh yêu em   (“ang ee-uu em” – all flat, no tone, BUT ADD PASSION 🙂 ) ** also, adjust for respective ages and sexes of the lovers involved lovers  – see HELLO, above

“no”: không (“comb” – flat, no tone)

“yes”: vâng (“vung” – flat, no tone)

Remember 3 Things

1. Stay flexible

2.  Always carry your hotel address card (to find your way home) 🙂

3. Love your Eating Saigon! adventure.

WHAT FUN!  Let me know how you did – and what you actually ate. Good Luck.

 

 April 20, 2012

  14 Responses to “What to Say and How to Say It (advice for Saigon Tourists)”

  1. Like your translation of ‘The food was terrible’.My parents always said ‘if you don’t have a good word to say,don’t say anything!’
    Just a couple of questions for the admin.Apart from eating,my other hobbies include photography and videography.
    Q1) Do the street food vendors mind if I take photos and videos?
    Q2) Is it save to carry with me my camera and camcorder (not the smart phone type) around?

    Thanks again for a brilliant site.

    HJ.

    • I spend my days taking photos of street food vendors. But, I always “ask first” … either directly, or more often by pointing to my camera, then to the vendor or the subject of the photo with a questioning gesture. Most of the time, the response is a smile and OK. Rarely, a “no” shake of the head indicates disapproval, which I always respect. As for carrying around a camera, camcorder, or anything of value, you MUST take great care. “Street snatching” of such items is increasing as economic times for locals is becoming more difficult lately, and as the spread between Vietnamese’ rich and poor is increasing dramatically and visibly. Always stay aware, hide your valuables, and assume there’s always a’snatcher” nearby. Probably about the same in any developing country.

    • I am still on my holiday after attending a Concierge conference in Kuala Lumpur. Journeyed to Siagon and had no problems after the first day. Language was a problem at first, but everyone overly helpful. I walked everywhere and carried my two cameras and iPhone. Not a single problem.

      It is the same alerts you have in every country, the US too!

      I traveled to Siem Reap and now on my last leg of my holiday in Bangkok. They said the same here about Bangkok, beware, beware, beware. You just need to be aware of you surroundings.

      I’ll be on a midnight flight to 0 degree weather in Chicago, which I thought I would have missed.

      But enjoy Saigon, eat, drink. (Only bottled water) and take photos, I did!!!!

      • Thanks for your reply,Alfredo.It’s very reassuring.I shall of course still be ‘aware of the surroundings’ just as if in any big cities.I love photography as much as eating,well may be just a little bit less than eating 🙂 ,so I determine to enjoy my trip to Vietnam.Thanks again for the reply,Alfredo and have a safe trip home.It’s from 30 degree C to 0 degree C!

  2. Wonderful sight. Accidentally came across this. Wish I saw this earlier. Leaving for Southeast Asia next week and will be in Vietnam 15-19/1. Very useful information which I am truly grateful and have done my cheat sheets.

    Thank you……

  3. Will definitely try to speak it. Can you let me know how to say the numbers and also ‘how much is?’ and ‘too expensive’!

    Great you helped out phonetically.

    thanks.

  4. I’ve been harassing my Vietnamese friends for months to make a cheat sheet for Vietnam. This post is just what I needed. Thanks

    Do the Vietnamese in Vietnam play with words like they do here in the states? I love the sense of humor.

    For example: Pho King Delicious

  5. I stumbled upon your blog while browsing Trip Advisor on places to go to in HCMC and I must say, it’s very entertaining to read your entries. There are so many delicious looking foods on display here. I’ll definitely try out a line or two in Viet as well as eating like nobody business while in Vietnam this July. Thanks for the information.

    • Thanks so much Jeff, I’m glad you enjoyed my posts. They’re great fun to write. I hope your July trip here is a great adventure for you!

  6. I LOVED this!! My husband is Korean/Chamorro and has NO foreign language skills thus far. I have tried for the last 9 years of our relationship to expand his Vietnamese knowledge beyond just “pho” and “cam on”.

    Random question: Is it safe to drink drinks with ice in it?? (I know that when we go to Mexico, everyone tells us NO ICE!)

    Can’t wait for our trip in July! We hope to visit Hai’s restaurant too.

    • I’m so glad you enjoyed my post about ,”What to Say …” It was great fun writing it! As for the ice, of course there are no guarantees … but I consume my drinks here in Saigon with ice everyday – and lots of it. It’s never been a problem. So I’d recommend you go ahead and stay cool with đá. I hope you love your time here in July!

  7. Thanks for such a helpful post.
    Hope you are recovering well.
    Is it rude to ask the price of a dish before you order ?I’m scared of getting ripped off again .Last trip at Bac Hai market I had an icecream shoved in my hand before I knew it and was asked for $4 US the vendor was laughing at how she ripped me off,This has left me with the feeling if you can’t see a price you will be ripped off for being a westerner.

    • Amanda … no problem, you can ask how much before you order, “bao nhiêu tiền?”. But frankly, I think such rip-offs are limited mainly to the key tourist spots (probably like most places in the world.) I avoid “tourist central” for many reasons, including the inflated prices/jaded vendors. You’ll note most all the places I mention are away from such places. Thanks for your well-wishes 🙂

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